In all of my travels, I haven’t been to many places as unique and interesting as Ukraine. You’ve got a mix of everything. Old-school Soviet architecture and family values, some of the sexiest girls in the world, and a general stigma against Western tourists.
So what do you get when you mix it all together?
A hell of an adventure.
I lived in Kiev, Ukraine during May, August, September, and October of this year. I lived in Odessa for June and July.
The general thing to know about Ukraine is this–the people are going to be suspicious of an outsider. Many of the girls (especially the attractive ones) are trying to escape to the European Union and greener pastures. So many old men have been coming for so long to try to sex up the local women–they’re very suspicious of anyone who speaks English.
With that being said, once you break into it and they start to recognize you, they become much more friendly.
For example, in May I had one coffee shop that I frequented every morning. The first few weeks, when I would speak my broken Russian and English mix, they would look at me in disgust. However, by the time that first month ended, those baristas were smiling to see me and making my drink as I waited in line. They realized that I was staying on at least a semi-permanent basis and that I was someone who was just not stopping through to take advantage of their women (and country, as a whole).
What do I mean by that?
Well, as of now the Ukrainian hryvnia is about 26:1 to the dollar.
You can have a nice three course lunch for about $3 in the center of Kiev.
Simply put, it’s a bummer for them. Most of them are slaving long hours to make the equivalent of $250 a month–which is their average monthly salary. In the capital city.
Can you blame them for being a bit frustrated with life? And perhaps not the friendliest to the Westerners?
Okay, Now…The Girls
Let’s face it, I know why you’re reading this post. You want to know all about the women.
Here it is: the women of Ukraine are some of the most beautiful (if not the most beautiful) on the planet. They are sweet, feminine, and eager to please.
They will also eat you alive if you don’t have yourself together.
Ukrainian women will test you endlessly, make you jump through hoops, and generally make you want to tear your hair out. However, after you’ve broken them down a bit–they’re yours. There is no hoop they will not jump through for you.
I saw this repeatedly with both myself and my group of friends in Kiev. The dating scene in Ukraine is so full of highs and lows that. You must come in with thick skin or prepare to be frustrated.
You should prepare yourself for an interrogation with questions along these lines. On every date you go out. There will never be a date where you aren’t asked:
- Why are you in Ukraine? (Lots of emphasis on the WHY–they never understand it)
- Are you a sex tourist?
- Do you think Ukrainian girls are beautiful?
- Do you think Ukrainian girls are easy?
- Do you want love or just sex?
You get my drift.
They aren’t going to let you off easy. If you fail even one test with these girls, they’ll be gone in a heartbeat. Even after you bed them, it can still be a bit of work to get them to “thaw off”, so to speak. A girl may still play games and make it hard for you to see her. It still takes a few weeks before they start to truly open to you.
But man, once they do–it’s incredible. They’re excellent cooks, smart, and usually pretty self-aware of the world. For an example of this, I gave my dating and travel blog to my Ukrainian girl–and she ended up contributing an article about how women could improve.
How many Western women would do that?
Now, I won’t promise that they’re all like that. Many friends have dated duds. There is a culture of shallowness–as the girls are obsessed with looking good and taking hundreds of selfies. But if you find the good ones, they are really good.
Where The Women At?
Depending on what city you’re in, the nightlife can be hit or miss. Kiev is so spread out that it makes it difficult. Add in the fact that it usually takes three dates to have sex with a girl, and it’s a recipe for frustration.
All the clubs are a ten minute cab ride apart (with the exception of Arena City which is chock-full of chodes and whores). Whilst taxis are cheap ($2-3 for these rides), and Uber is now available–it’s just a buzzkill on your night to have to move around so much. Add in the very cold nights, and it’s easy to get discouraged.
Other places such as Odessa are a bit more compact and you can more easily move from spot to spot.
As far as online game goes, Tinder is gaining in popularity, but not many girls are on it. In Kiev, a city of nearly three million people, only about 3,000 girls were on it (aged 18-29). I averaged about 30 matches a week. Contrast this to Krakow, Poland, where I got 200 a week.
Ukraine Date is a good alternative but the English will be considerably worse.
Prices & More Things To Know
Beer: $1-2 (every restaurant)
Bed: Private apartments for $15-30 a night, hostel/dorms are less than $10
Food: $4-8 for a nice meal out (McDonald’s will cost you $3 for the basics in comparison)
Other: Transit is very cheap. The metro in Kiev costs all of $0.15 to ride. You can take a taxi across cities for $3-5.
Be careful of buying water in restaurants–they’ll get you there by bringing you the most expensive glass bottle (already opened, of course) and charging you $10.
Ukraine is a great place for nomads, but come with thick skin and a willingness to tackle the difficulty of life head on. Making friends (if staying for any permanent period of time) is necessary just to have a social life with some masculine camaraderie.
The time to go is now. The currency is so low, it’s the time to leverage your dollars or pounds into having a great time. You can live the life of a king for almost nothing.
That may not be exactly nomadic, but with hordes of beautiful women and exciting adventures awaiting–why not?
If you liked this post, you’ll probably like my new book—Understanding Ukraine.
At the end shouldn’t it be “If you liked this article, you’ll probably like my new book”?
Haha whoops. Yes, thanks!
Good points you make here. I myself have a very positive impression of the Slavic women I have met here in Chicago, who seem to actually know how to act like women. With this being said, it seems as if the relationships offer more depth based on the interrogation that a man will face compared to here in the states, where a woman from a very dignified background will jump into bed with the most hoodlum character out there and sometimes may even marry him. On a side note, the minister at my church here in the Chicago land area is married to a Polish woman, and some of the best conversations I have had with a woman have been with her.
I’ve heard very good things about the Polish women in Chicago. Such a large community it allows the values to stay more intact.
One other question? Do feel generally speaking that the guys of Ukraine are more or less needy than the average guy in the states? Fyi: I have watched a few Russian and Polish movies and get the impression guys tend to be less beta in that part of the world. World you agree with this statement?
I dont know about Ukrainians, but in case of Poles it is pure bullshit.
Would agree here.
Yes to Ukraines.
It’s not overrun enough yet and there’s so many beautiful women–they have their pick.
Polish dudes on the other hand are rarely wanted by their own kind, so they are more needy. Wouldn’t say as much as the States though.
Wow interesting points you make Kyle. Why would Polish dudes not be wanted by their own? Curious, do you ever encounter guys from Scandinavia in Ukraine or Poland looking for girls?
Polish girls seem to have high-sky desire for foreign guys. They love my look, dark, borderline Latino.
And no to the second question.
Have you ever been to Latvia? I live just outside Riga and find the country really depressing. The number one issue for me is the coldness of the people. I knew before I moved here that they were like androids, but I didn’t expect it to get to me so much.
The Russian minority here have some robotic personalities too, but overall I find them warmer and easier to talk to. I should point out that my wife is Russian, thus making our kids half Russian, and we speak Russian at home, albeit less than English. But I’m still really uncomfortable living here and it’s almost entirely down to the emotionless social bearings of the ethnic Latvians.
I haven’t, I’ve just been through the airport this year en route to Vilnius. After my experience in Vilnius, I can’t say I’m too eager to go through the rest of the Baltics. Just a little quiet and cold for me.
I’ve kinda heard the same things as you describe. It’s not really a destination a lot of us are dying to get to.
Why not move?
Any chance you could elaborate how the dual-language situation works with the kids? She speaks to them in Russian, you in English? That’s how they learned both?
Would love to know.
We both speak to them in both languages, although with me it’s mostly English whereas with her it’s increasingly Russian. I had read that the ideal is that she only speaks to them in Russian and I only in English, but it’s working okay for us our way; young children soak everything up so readily, it’s easy for them. When they are playing they just flip between the languages effortlessly. Sometimes when we’re out in public / in shops I will tell them “tolka na Russkom” if they speak in English, in instances where I prefer not to draw attention to ourselves.
I homeschool them, believe it or not, all in English, but she has started to teach them the Russian alphabet now. They’re only 6 and 5 years old respectively, so it’s early days by Eastern European standards, as kids start school late here compared to back home in the UK.
As for moving, well, we came here for medical treatments that we couldn’t get at home, but we have to leave by next summer or we will be required to teach the kids in Latvian, a language neither of us speaks. If finances permit, we would ideally prefer Switzerland but worst case, I think we can go back to the UK.
Great insight, something I’ve always been curious about.
Curious if your wife is from Russia—why wouldn’t you consider living there?
She’s an ethnic Russian from Kyrgyzstan, but under rules brought in by Putin she is entitled to Russian citizenship. As yet, she hasn’t taken Vlad up on the offer, but her sister and mama both have done so, and her sister now lives in St Petersburg.
She had suggested moving there, but Russia is slowly becoming less free. Putin brought in two appalling laws this year, namely, very onerous punishment for parents who smack their kids and a ban on evangelicals inviting anyone to church, which my sister-in-law in St Petersburg is already upset about, since church is her life. Those two things would also be a huge problem for us (what am I doing on a site like this, I hear you ask… well, I value insights into travel and women!)
Anyway, now there is a law being proposed to regulate foreign travel out of Russia, and this has set alarm bells ringing for many freedom-minded Russians. So I see a trend there towards loss of liberty, to a degree that we have not yet reached in the West, even though we’re far less free now than we were 10 years ago and it’s set to get worse.
Makes sense! Being out here has allowed me to see that maybe Russia is not all roses–though us in the West like to thing it is.