A recent post that explained the similarities between training a woman and a dog had some excellent comments by the readership.
Firstly, UoM pointed out a Heartiste classic from six odd years ago.
Many people, when they train a new puppy, tend to punish them well after the fact, as Carpenter pointed out (my emphasis for the sake of game is in bold):
I would add one thing: a mistake bad dog owners do, and a mistake that is very common in countries like China where they think of pets like furniture, is to not enforce boundaries. They set a boundary, like no jumping up in the couch, then ignore it several times when the dog jumps up. Then suddenly they punish the dog hard for doing so. Such a dog will be confused, angry, afraid, and more likely to bite. Same with relationships. If you don’t want fast food, but still acquiesce to it several times, don’t suddenly get angry and blame her for buying the food after you’ve stood on the scale. Don’t blame her for decisions you both made. If you were reluctant but gave in, that’s your fault – don’t blame her for asking twice and getting a yes the second time. This will only cause a lot of bitterness. Have the strength to say no at all times to avoid this situation.
Punishing a puppy for actions that occurred potentially hours ago is a waste of time. If you’re gone for eight hours on your workday, and come home to shit all over your rug, it doesn’t do you any good to shove the dog’s head in it as punishment. Dogs have a nearly nonexistent memory – how long have you ever had a dog be mad at you? Has a dog ever held a grudge against you?
I highly doubt it.
Therefore, the little pup isn’t going to realize that you’re upset in that it shit in the house because it potentially did that seven hours prior! It simply can’t make the correlation.
Guess what? The mantra of game as told by The Chateau throughout the years has always been reward slowly, punish swiftly. Hell, it’s even right in the famous 16 Commandments post.
(Emphasis mine, again)
VI. Keep her guessing
True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.
All I’m going to say is this: when you’re dangling food in front of a dog, there is no limit as to how many tricks it will perform for the food.
Finally, WizardPrang left the best one comment of them all.
I’m not sure… and while some may think the material crass and uncouth, it contains some nuggets of wisdom that resonated with me.
Women look to their men to lead them.
They seek a powerful man they can submit to and feel protected by.
Left to their own devices, they tend to turn feral.
They will test you, if you let them, as a way of ensuring that you still have what it takes to lead them.
Some women have a tendency to behave like children; they should be treated as such.
Not sure if Master/Dog the correct dynamic, or if it is more like Lead Dog/Puppy.Of course these are generalizations, so don’t get bent out of shape if you are an exception, or know someone who is – I know one (in the biblical sense). Either way, we train others in how to treat us.
Saw this money quote recently: “A woman’s job is to get away with whatever shit she can. A man’s job is not not to let ’em.”
So, let’s get something clear. I don’t hate women, obviously. I love them, and my girlfriend. But I’m not a fool. I learned that instead of bemoaning that, “women are all bitches”, or “men might as go their own way” – just accept women for what they are and deal with it. Believe it or not, with lower expectations and a greater grasp on reality – when women act exactly how women do – it won’t upset you! Crazy concept, I know.
While I do enjoy coming up with titles such as “Training a Woman is Strikingly Similar to Training a Dog” in the hopes of riling some of them up (looking at you, Sis and GF) – I don’t really believe that my girlfriend should be my absolute slave. I don’t own her like I would a dog. She’s her own, independent self, but that doesn’t mean along the lines of the “American girl independent” like most are.
And no, I don’t walk her around on a leash.
Relationship Game is really just the following things:
- Always hold frame.
- Lead, don’t follow.
- Ignore/smash shit tests.
- Fuck good.
- Care less than her; i.e. have a mission.
If you do these five items, I guarantee your relationships will be happy and healthy.
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