Glad to see you address this. You’re now into the area where a lot of PUAs totally fail at being men (in my opinion).
Whatever they claim, I fail to see the masculinity in taking a 19 year old gir’s virginity, whom you had no intention of actually pursuing a relationship with, just to satisfy a fleeting sexual urge. Masculinity isn’t about “muh fuck girls” – it’s about honour, virtue, and principles.
Shagging a slutty girl from the West who’s already had numerous one night stands? No problem, go for it.
But girls like this, I personally believe, if you have no genuine intention of actually pursuing something more lasting with them, then leave them alone. You can cause lasting emotional damage to them, and mess them up for any future men who were more serious about them.
Hey, maybe it doesn’t work out, but you’ll at least be able to look yourself in the eye.
Exactly, some Western whore who has played dozens, if not hundreds of men – I have NO issue whatosever with pumping and dumping her like the piece of used up garbage she is. She’s a cum bucket. I wouldn’t feel the slightest bit of remorse.
But here? Good lord, I definitely don’t think I would have actually fucked this girl if I didn’t actually feel SOMETHING for her.
At the same time, I realize my age and hers don’t exactly match – me 24, her 21. There is obviously low chance for REALLY long term because I want to capitalize on my own value. But at the same time, I want something with her in the immediate now. Hopefully she flies out to the next city.
In any case, I agree – if you’re a Western man, you have been truly screwed by society. Life has beaten and kicked you to the God damn curb. But if you want to take out your sexual urges…yeah, there’s better places than the 19 year old EE virginal girl. Such as Southeast Asia, Colombia, Poland….many places where you can have the masculine/feminine dynamic but with girls who have been around the block and not ruin a poor girl.
And actually, I want to add more to this, because it helps to really draw this line in the sand about how to treat a cum bucket.
If you somehow charm or game a girl who is a “good girl” into fucking you on say, the first date, even if she’s a virgin or extremely low notch count…I think that’s fair game too. She should have the self respect, brain, and restraint to not fall for that.
However, the responsibility turns once you start going on many dates. At that point, you’re sending signals that you’re considering something more with her than a pump and dump – so the responsibility falls back to the man. Like Simon said in his next response (below)—with power comes responsibility.
Use ’em wisely.
Further more, that is a lot of time investment in a girl (like I did) for someone you just a cum bucket. 18 hours for one orgasm?
That’s a horrible use of time.
Anyways, I’ll let Simon take it home with his final comment (response to mine above).
I mean, you don’t need to start considering whether you want some girl to be your future wife and mother of your children every time you go out on a date, but I’m sure you’ll agree – you generally know within a few hours of meeting a girl whether you actually like her more than in just a purely “need to satisfy a sexual urge” sense, and then you need to consider your own actions.
Understanding female psychology, knowing game – these things give us power over women. And at the risk of sounding cheesy – with power comes responsibility.
The responsibility in this case is to do the right thing, not abuse your power, and not selfishly screw up some innocent girl if you know full well you don’t really fancy her for more than just a quickie, or just to give your ego a quick boost. There’s nothing honourable in that.
As you say, there are plenty of girls who have been around the block in the world to play around with. As far as I’m concerned, the second a girl has had a single one night stand she’s fair game for this. A decent, self-respecting girl will never have a ONS. They understand the value of their sexuality, and for girls like this to sleep with someone requires a deeper emotional connection.
Granted, girls like this are like unicorns in the West, but as I know you are finding now, there are a lot of them in other places.
What are your thoughts on this?
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